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Playing all the 2019 Spiel des Jahres Nominees, BGG.Spring, plus Batman, Endeavor, Tiny Towns, Feudum, Merlin, and an RPG

In today’s episode Josh takes the reins in the second half and questions Bruce about all the 2019 Spiel des Jahres nominees which Bruce got to try while attending BGG.Spring. In addition Bruce talks about some of the games he was able to try at BGG.Spring in addition to the nominees, Josh talks about games he has been playing recently, there is a quick news segment to give updates on the US proposed board game tariff on Chinese goods. This is an extra large episode so that Bruce and Josh could get you all the information you want to know about the nominees. Enjoy!

The Spiel Nominees are broken into 3 categories. Game of the Year (Spiel des Jahres), Gamer Game of the Year (Kenner Spiel des Jahres), and Children’s Game of the Year (Kinder Spiel des Jahres).

The Spiel Nominees are: Just One by Repos Production, WareWords by Bezier Games, and LAMA by AMIGO.

The Kenner Nominees are: Carpe Diem by Alea Games, Detective: A Modern Crime Board Game by Portal Games, and Wingspan by Stonemaier Games.

The Kinder Nominees are: Fabulantica by Pegasus Spiele, Go Gecko Go! by Zoch, and Tal Der Wikinger by HABA.

Other specific games discussed were: The Witch is Dead RPG One Shot by Grant Howitt (see link below for Reddit link), Tiny Towns by Alderac Entertainment Group (AEG), Batman: Gotham City Chronicles by Monolith, Feudum by Odd Bird Games, Endeavor: Age of Sale by Burnt Island Games and The Grand Gamers Guild, and Merlin by Queen Games

Reddit RPG One Shot Link -> https://www.reddit.com/r/onepagerpgs/

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In today’s episode of board game impact, we’re gonna talk about all the craziness that ensued at BG de spring. Josh is gonna talk about the games. He’s been playing recently talk about some quick news. And then we’re going to do a deep dive into the spiel this yards nominations. You don’t wanna miss that. That’s going to take place in the second half of the episode stating. Welcome to board game impact my name is Bruce Brown. And if this is your first time joining the show, I just wanna say, welcome board game impact seeks to combine our passions for the board game hobby, as well as educational lens that we both bring to thanks to our work in higher education, so board game impact is not just myself. But also, my buddy, Josh, Josh say, hi lo listener, so listeners in the for those of you who are returning. No that I went to board game board game. Geek spring this past weekend. That was the Memorial Day weekend. And I just wanna take a quick second before we get into anything of the show. Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much to all the listeners who came out and played games with me. And just like wanted to make sure that I knew that they were there because he did do that. Call out over the last couple episodes, and it was so fulfilling to get to meet you and person and get to hear your stories and the impact that this have hobby has had on you. And so I just want to say how filling that was and so quick note. Again. If this is your first time listening, please, make sure to hit that subscribe, because we are building a community here of sharing impacts across this wonderful hobby, so that way, hopefully, the lessons that we talk about in the experiences that we share our impactful for not just you but also your entire gaming group. And so, again, thank you so much listeners for coming up to me and Joshua. It was sad that he could not be there, but he will be there in time. We’re getting him to go to be false. It’d be g con in downtown Dallas that refund. I’ll be an November. Sorry. But thank you, again listener, so actually today, we’ve got a little hybrid episode for you and what we’re going to be doing is going to be talking about games who’ve been playing recently, then we’re gonna be going over quick new segment with some quick updates. But really the focus of the episode Josh is actually going to giving the mic over to you. And I had the opportunity to really play through all of those spiel nominees that came out so since the. Last recording the spilled ers the German game of the year awards. So there’s three different awards. So there’s the game of the year award, which is very family approached good for pretty much all ages. Then there’s the Kenner spiel, which is for all of the gamers like this is like the more hardcore award for gamers. And then there’s the kinder- spiel the kids are children’s game of the year. They had all nine of those games. So in that the second half of this episode, we’re going to be talking through all the games all nine of them as well as calling ourselves out on the predictions that we had right? But also, the majority that we had wrong, so with that I’m going to turn it over to Josh to say, hi, but then also to lead us into something. He’s been playing recently shore. Once again, Hello listeners, welcome back. Bruce. Welcome back from your vacation. Yes, I am. In fact, quite disappointed that I was not able to make it out over Memorial Day weekend, though, I am ist. Itching to get back to Dallas. Hopefully. We’re going to knock on wood, that, I will be there in November, for the main BG Khan, and we’ll hopefully get to speak to some listeners there. So Bruce the first game I wanted to bring today is actually a game a little bit older of a game one that we have played together a couple times dating back to my first BG con experience two years ago and that game is Merlin by Queen games. Merlin is designed by Stephan fouled and I’m going to blank on the second designer on that game right now. I will look it up for you. Keep going. Thank you. So Merlin is a game that is based on a Ron Dell. So you are taking a worker and moving it a around a circle track on the board taking actions based on where you land the name Merlin comes from the authorian legends. You have both a night moving around the board, which you control you also have a Merlin Hawn on the board, which is shared by everyone and is moved once per player per round.

05:01 – 10:05

That’s kind of the unique aspect of this game is this kind of shared player, pawn, that is being moved around. Really, really? Interesting game. I actually got to play this. Back to the table for the first time in a while and actually for the first time probably in about six months, because that is when I first got the expansion, Arthur. Which adds a nother shared pawn on the board. A black pon, which represents King Arthur, which is also being moved around and shared by all of the players. The game like a lot of Steph elds. Other games is often described as a point salad. It is a game designed where you can make points in a variety of ways doing a variety of things. The point of the game is to see who earns the most points. The theme doesn’t really exist. It’s kind of fun to talk about. But realistically, it’s really slapped on here. There’s not a lot of theme to this game but it is really, really fun. Interesting game play. You’re making some really interesting decisions. Do I move Merlin now and guarantee myself this action or do, I may be wait and see what my opponent does with him to see if maybe I can get a better action, there’s tiles which let you manipulate your die rolls too. To, to better. Move your pieces or Merlin a really really great game. This is one that tops my list of favorite games, actually. There’s I think people either love this game or they hate it. But for me, this is this is one of the best, Stephan feld games that I’ve experienced for for me at least and for a lot of the people, I think that I’ve played with, and Bruce, I know that I’ve played at least a couple times with you. I don’t know if you had a chance to play any other times, besides those are what your experiences with Merlin have been, yes. So first of all, the other designer is Michael reineck. So Michael reineck Stephan, feld is designer. It’s making game since two thousand five which is first game was Roma. We’re actually gonna be talking about stuff and felled during the spiel section because he’s nominated this year for one of his games in the Kenner, a, let’s wait to hear what game that is. But he’s come up with a lot of other really famous games. Burge’s really famous for castles burgundy, which is in the top ten on board game. Geek. So here’s the thing about Stephan, feld. First of all Stephan felt was my wife was her first introduction to euro games. And I’m like, I don’t know how this is going to go ’cause I got castles burgundy from my board game. Geek secret Santa he’s like you have to play this. Okay, santa. So he did that. And my wife fell in love with Stephan as a designer. And so when she came to BT spring, a year ago, we actually sat down at the Queen booth and played Merlin and she she’s like you have to buy this game like you have to buy it. Now, I am going to echo exactly what you said, Josh in that some people think Merlin’s kind of they like they like it, but it’s not hasn’t risen to the level of some of Stephan felt other games, which is fine like we’ve all got our own flair. And if you go back, like maybe ten episodes of the podcast actually talked about, like some of my history, family history and why. Inclines me also like night games. And so, like Cayenne idea games, but I actually really enjoy Merlin. It’s got a lot of components. And that’s the one thing that’s kept me from really getting it to the table is just getting all of its setup. But once it’s set up like heck yeah, we’ll play it goes really well to players. I like the fact that so it is a role in move game but the way you can use those dice. Like Josh was talking about is really, really cool. And it only takes takes place over six rounds. And there’s a lot to explore now having onto play with the expansions. So I’m very curious as to what that added besides the other pawn. But I know Josh you, we’re going to talk about later, the fact that they just had a Kickstarter actually funded the day of recording today for the next expansion after that. So Merlin’s game this still is still kicking, and it’s got a lot offer. Yeah. I, I did back the second expansion which is as a nights knights of the round table, which. It’s looks like this new expansion the, the knights of the round table gives each player some unique choices to make throughout the game that are specific to that player.

10:05 – 15:06

So you start the game by drafting two nights that you control by yourself, which give you each night gives you a unique ability that only you have throughout the game. So that I think adds some kind of unique aspects to it the other part that the. That the Arthur expansion added was just again it’s a Stephenville game added some new ways to score points. So at added this picked track, which you can go out and attack the picks and conquer the picks. And those will score you some more points. Each each time the game scores again I think this game has a lot of legs to it. I do agree. It has a ton of setup and components. I was actually commenting as I was setting it up that this is the next game on my list. I think that is begging for a an insert so something. Yeah. We talked about viticulture last time. One of the reasons I never got viticulture out was for that exact same reason was the setup. I got an insert to it. And now it’s come out three times since I bought that answer. So I think having an insert to make that set up a little bit easier. Is definitely something that I’m going to be looking into for Merlin, because it kind of getting this back to the table. Like I said really for the first time in about six months, really rekindled that love of the game for me. And I’m really excited to, to see what this new expansion brings to it. When that does come also I look forward to checking it out. So I got something very different and not a board game actually talk about. But it is still game. And so it still counts listeners. So besides for board games. I also dabble in roleplaying games, I’ve been playing indeed, Josh know you play DND. I’ve dungeon mastered some games. I know you do that, too. But I’ve also played like monster of the week and honestly so one of the guys that I’ve been one of the couples that I’ve been playing with here. They just had a kid in August, and so getting a regular campaign setup hasn’t really been thing. And so one of their friends who I met actually, because they attended be g spring last year. They flew in from California and attended the loved it couldn’t come back this year. He he’s like, here’s a deal. We gotta get something going. How about we try a one shot? So for those of you who aren’t familiar, a one shot is where you’re not doing a whole campaign, you century roll up character. Right. Then and there and you do a one off story that has no connection to anything else. But this wasn’t like DND. This wasn’t any of the other systems I’ve ever used. There’s actually a sub read it called. RPG one shots. And so it’s like our slash RPG ones one shots. And on there, there’s free one shot campaigns one shot adventures, you can do. It’s all the links to this in the podcast notes listeners. If you wanna go check out any of those separates. The one we played there’s one, one of them was like good cop bad cop. You play as a partnership. We didn’t play that one. There’s another one. That’s like y’all play his grandma’s. We didn’t play that one. We played the one called the witch is dead. And what it is, is the you are woodland animal, and what you do is what the story is, is. You are all familiar ‘s for this one witch that lives on the outskirts of town and a width and you’re gone about your day, just fine. And then a witch hunter came by and killed the witch. And you know of a potential way to bring her back to life. And that is to take the eyes of the which hunter whoever killed the witch and do this little thing. It’s actually really, really nice graphics and stuff for this literally one sheet of paper for all the rules for all of the things need to roll. And so we rolled to figure out the history of the town, we rolled to figure out what kind of character we are. And then what type of hedge magic are which taught us. And so for me, I rolled that I was crow gave me a couple of basic things on like being sly right crow not as much as the cat though. But I was also able to be quick because I was bird. But then I was also able to cause distractions and what we have to do is we had one week in game time to go and find this hunter, and then recover the is and bring them back. So it was actually really, really fun experience you played in all of two hours, that’s including learning the rules as well as rolling. For our character, which Josh, I know like that never happens we completed an entire story in two hours. It’s really all an art of improvisation, but it brought us some cool things in players by trying to act like okay. Well, how would a crow a dog and a cat interact together, and how what would they do when they go into town? And so it was really, really cool.

15:06 – 20:07

So I actually pulled a to cause a distraction as I want to be like one of the birds on one of the windex commercials and fly into the wall, just to distract them, because that’s like I didn’t know there was glass, quote unquote, and so was just a lot of fun. And Josh and now you’ve played roleplaying games for this kind of thing interest. You, you know, I think that thing that interests me about this, the most is what you just said. In terms of the timeframe, two hours to learn a rule set developed characters and play a game to conclusion is pretty unheard of. I mean right. I think I probably take twice that long just to roll up a character Indian d-. I, I’ve had less experience with other. Systems than than you have, Bruce, I, I kind of keep in that dean D wheelhouse for the most part, but this is definitely something that I think is interesting. I think it’s a nice way to learn some new systems and learn some different mechanics. I definitely be interested in giving this shot. I think the only thing that would prevent me from doing this is just my game group. I have a group that plays board games and I have my group, the place de the only reason I’ve never done any other type of RPG, is that learning curb. So I think that this might kind of help get over that hurdle a little bit something like this. That is a little bit easier to learn easier to, to manage. So I’m glad that you sounds like you had a good time with it. Yeah. It is everything you do. Everything did you roll a d ten and then the DM the, the done? Master game Astor picks threshold like you have to be a six where nine super difficult. And then they just pick the most appropriate skill that you’re trying to add to it. So it’s either clever. It was quick fierce or sly. Does it like so out actually use it to maybe introduce the whole concept of role playing and like that in provisional improvisational storytelling? But the original, author of it is grant, Howitt just wanna give him credit. Yeah. Great. Yeah. So let’s which back the board gaming, though, sure. So I’ll go from game. That’s been sitting on my show for a while to one that actually just made it to the shelf really excited about this one, and that is futile them. I believe it was a while ago. Now that we actually talked about the expansion to feud them on this podcast. And I mentioned that there that while the game sounded really intriguing. It sounded. Right up my alley and something that would probably, but probably something that would sit on my shell for awhile. So I wasn’t willing to spend the money I was actually able to get my hands on a kick starter. Addition copy of Jayme really, really beautiful. The artwork is just phenomenal the components, especially some of the Kickstarter, exclusive components are just fun nominal. I spent a good chunk of time when I this came in just playing with the components, they’re, they’re really, really nice. And surprisingly did not sit on my shelf. All that long manage to actually get out twice in the past week to the table once as a two player game once the three player game in that order in that order. I will say it was better as a three player game than a two player game. I honestly believe that really this needs to be a four to six player game. The is technically two two five. There is an expansion that can add a six player in which I was lucky enough to get with the game. And. The. The reason I say that I it probably needs to be at a higher player count. So one of the unique aspects to this game is you are putting workers out onto the board and your workers are a die and based off of which side of your die. Your worker belongs to a guild and then you’re guilds are around the board. And so the more workers you have, and the more of specific types of land, you control. So let’s say you have a farm worker out and you own a couple of farms, you increase your standing in the farmers guilt accents.

20:08 – 25:05

Or you have a Royal person, you have a Royal pawn out, and you have a couple towns. So the town’s plus your Royal worker, add to your standing in the royalty guild. And so you’re trying to manipulate your standing in these guilds and, and there’s some area control there, some economics going on in terms of how you trade. I could probably talk, well, I did in explaining the rules to people. It is probably an hour and a half to teach this game wolf. That’s not playing it. That’s just teaching it, it is because every rule requires an understanding of another rule. It is brain Bernie. It is deep. It is heavy, it’s probably a good two to three hours playtime on top of that learning time. But I think is really really good game design. I think is really interesting. It’s exactly the type of game that I want to play it is not going to be for everyone ruin I will own that just in terms of the complexity the. Length. It is it is not going to be everyone’s Cup of tea. But I think it’s really, really good in order to be competitive though, I do think you need to have a higher player count. I think that the two to three players just makes the ability for one person to control a guild a little too easy for. And I think that. Now I haven’t played enough to really understand all the depth to strategy of the game. I will own that. But I think there appear to be some strategies that are more likely to be successful when it is a lower player, count them make sense. So I recommend it. It isn’t expensive game. But you didn’t buy it. Right. I did not. So I used BG’s marketplace tool, so BG has a system where you can. List all of the games that you own. You can also list all of games that you would like to trade, you can create a separate list of games. You would like to receive a trade, and then they will the website will generate for you. A list of people who though match you up, basically, harmony. That’s great. I not used it before the downside to it is, you do have to end up paying for your own shipping. Shipping board games. Can get kind of costly the large game. It is I was actually lucky enough. I have been trying to similar to Bruce you posted about this in, in the Facebook page, you Marie condo. Your game collection ended, I did buy a lot. And I’m gonna talk about that when we talk about a board game. Yeah. I kind of did a similar process. And so I got I was trying to unload, a lot of games and was able to trade a good chunk of games for I think I traded fifteen games for like five back and in the process, I it was with us specific company that that specializes in trading. So they were able to get the discount on shipping, which made it a lot easier to manage that. I got rid of a lot of games that I don’t play go hang for. Yeah. Four new games that that I’m really looking forward to being one of them. So I assume they’re all not just like giant games because feedoms giant that could be like smaller games and a mix of some medium games that they balance out to kind of make it a equitable trade. Is that right? Yes. So I, I got few them I got another bigger game empires, the void to and then to medium weight games. So. And then all of the games that I traded were relatively smaller lighter way or older games. But it really worked out. I think in my favor like I said it chief two goals of mine got me, four games that I’d really wanted, but not had not been willing to spend the money on because at least two of them were more expensive games. And spoiler alert for later when we talk about me, purging, Mike election, not, because I don’t like the games is just a hit a lot of games.

25:05 – 30:03

And I wanted to slim things down, who running out of space, in her house, and also want them to go to homes where they’re going to get played. Right. And so I actually my ratio is more like fifty three. That was my ratio from board game geek and I’ll talk about that here in a little bit interesting. The game that I am actually in talking about now. Josh though is very different than feud him so years was where all the things are interconnected said this game still has that interconnectivity. But this game play in about twenty minutes, and that was tiny towns by Aldrich, entertainment groups or AIG. This was essentially the game of the convention, and I did message AG and let them know that you couldn’t check this thing out, you had to find someone with one of the two copies in the library. Find them sit with them, wait till they finish make new friend, walk with them to the library. They checked in the game. You checked it out. Like, that’s the only way you got to do it, unless you’re like me and I found somebody who also had a copy and I was just texting him like when can I borrow it? But then after that, of course, then I got to check it out of the library, of course after two days. So tiny towns is a really fun puzzle. It’s a very quick game. You can play with one person or up to six in the base game. How it works is you have a grid in front of you, as well as a whole bunch of resources. Now, this is going to sound like I’m explaining Catan, but I’m not so you have would you have brick you have wall, you have wheat, you have? Or but then you also have one other resource. I can’t remember exactly which one that is right now. But essentially, what happens is you take those resources. And let’s say it’s my turn, Josh. And you and I are playing I would say, okay, we’re all gonna take would and we each take a wood, and we put it somewhere on our grid. Then you would go and you say whatever the heck you wanna choose. You can be a would it could be a glass, that’s the last resources could be any of the others. And then we all have to take it, you have to, and you have to put it on your grid now. Why you’re doing this is there’s a display of seven different buildings. So there’s the cottage there’s the essentially farm, there’s the essentially a citadel type thing all seven of those have a little tetris design on the bottom of them. And so might be a little tetris L where it has a BRIC, brick and then a wheat, and then a wood, and that if you have that arrangement on your grid, you can say, I’m going to build and you collect those three spots, and then you take that respective building. And you put it in one of those three spots. So here’s the thing. Some of them though, require like six or seven, and so as you get more and more buildings on your little grid. You have less and less spaces where you can put a cube. And so you keep playing until you can no longer take something or build. So you can’t do anything else, there’s no space left, and then you will, remove all of the resource the cubes that you have left on your board. And then you get minus one point for each of those. But you’ll get a lot of points off of your off of the other things. So like the cottages of the seven was really cool. As the cottages is always the most easy one to build and it’s always the same card, the other six each have their own deck of four cards. So the variability of you’ll never have the same exact game again is high like that’s awesome. And so every time you play it’s gonna be slightly different with hallmarks of the same thing. So if you’re a group that likes rolling right games, if you’re someone who likes having that slight take that by, like giving yourself something I’m going to take wood, and you’re not gonna want would but you have to take it. Or you just want to spend a good thirty minutes with a nice little puzzle, and regardless, if you win or lose you feel like I just delta town. This game is going to be for you. AG did a phenomenal job with this game. Every single one of the buildings is a different piece of wood in a very nice color in a very nice design. It looks really good on the table. It has people flocking to it and then art. That’s on the cards. All this cards, document aren’t like these little, like playing cards. They’re full on tarot size everyone at the table can see them real easy as well as they’ve really nice, art. And so, like, if it’s the monastery looking thing it’s got these little like chipmunks in among suit. And so it’s really cute too. So if you’re somebody who really digs like cool, or different art. So we’ve talked about raccoon and other games like you’re gonna like this game. Honestly can’t say enough about this.

30:03 – 35:04

And then the price tags only thirty five bucks. That was actually my, my comment. I was about. I’m really, really glad that you were able to get a shot at this. This has been a game that’s been on my radar for a while now probably three or four months really since it came out and. I haven’t pulled the trigger on it yet. I’ve just kind of been hanging out waiting on. It looks really, really good. It looks very light, which was my concern was if it would be to light of a game for what I typically get to the table. It sounds like that is not necessarily the case it sounds like the mechanics are pretty simple. Yep. But, but probably the puzzle is pretty complex. So I was actually playing this with a Biji team geek and he actually went to be just to play solo games because he’s like I’m really into solo games the library here is incredible. There’s a lot of games have been wanting to try. And so he came for that reason and wonderful, wonderful human being. With a very funny avatar. They’ll tell you after this recording because it is not really appropriate. But anyway, so he sat down with me. I’m like, hey, we got thirty minutes play the only game him and I got to play. And I’m very thankful for it because he’s like, man. This is like super easy. And then like to moves into goes, oh my God. And this is a guy who always plays solo game. So he’s used to this whole, like solving a puzzle. What he does, but even he was like, there’s a lot of depth here, ended up beating him by a single point. We were super close. But yeah, so it’s got a replay a lot of replay ability if you want to learn the rules, there’s even a watch it plays. Rodney did watch it played for this so that we can learn it. So highly recommend checking out as tiny towns by rate. Definitely something on my list of purchase for awhile, definitely going to have to take another look at it. So Bruce, I do want to briefly jump back to a game. We talked about last week because interestingly enough, we talked about a this is a Kickstarter another time that we talked about a Kickstarter and immediately after I decided I had to get this game back to the table. I said, I was going to do it and I did game is in Dever age of sail. So listeners. For just your knowledge. We talked a little bit about it last episode age of sail has a new endeavour has an Kickstarter coming out. It should be launching in the next couple of weeks. I believe it’s June fourteenth. Yes. So, so about two weeks from now from the time of this recording. And endeavor is a game at taste place in the age of sail in which you are playing as European powers trying to make trade negotiations with different continents to set up colonies on different continents to take resources and. To co elect victory points really, at the at the end of the day, you’ll earn points based off of if you are the governor of certain colonies, they will award you certain points. If you have a higher rating on your building, or cultural, or economic track than other players, you’ll get victory points, you’ll get points by owning trade connections. So if you have ownership of a. Of a outpost and say North America ownership of the shipping lane from Europe North America and ownership of an outpost in Europe that connects those you’ll score some points. They’re really kind of a neat way to set up this game. It follows some really interesting historical context of one of the things that. It’s interesting I didn’t realize this when they reprinted the game. There’s actually a piece they talk about there’s a mechanic in the game in which you can utilize slaves. And one of the interesting things reading through the rule book, again, is they actually explain why they left this mechanic in the game even though it may not necessarily feel good. And I think part of that is, it’s not supposed to feel good.

35:04 – 40:13

It is supposed to be make you feel uncomfortable because you get a really nice benefit by taking those. Resources. But it will hurt you in the end game, it most likely they will be negative points for you at the scoring. But there’s also this really uncomfortable feeling of like I could shoot ahead early on score a whole bunch of points, but it feels weird and it feels uncomfortable. And. It has this kind of impact of getting you thinking about. History. In that way of putting yourself in this position of do you make the quote unquote economically smart decision or do you forgo that option? Ignore. The fact that you will potentially lose out on some victory points, the because it feels better and a you, you feel above that. So as this sounds like they did it will I in my opinion. Yes, I think especially rereading kind of the, the publishers explanation for why they chose to keep the mechanic. I think it, it makes sense. It works. It elicits some emotion from players reasonably. So but I think it is done in a of a way that gets people thinking, sure. Sure outside of the game itself. So I gotta I just gotta ask so some ways that some games approach things like this actually seen a recent game review. The unit can talk about after the show that goes into this about a different game where essentially the glorify that time period to say, like this is what it was right. But in this case, it actually seems like no we’re not going to whitewash it. We’re going to recognize that this was a thing that happened, but we’re also going to recognize that, you know what in the end like the game itself is going to say like that. That was a bad choice. It’s short term gains for you. But like morally that, and so it sounds like they did a good job of like. Being correct in the time period, but also meeting it with where we are today as a civilization. Yes and no. I, I will give a downfall game of I think it still does a little bit it. Addresses, the slavery. It doesn’t necessarily address the colonialism. Gotcha. So that got one not both not both. If you can look beyond that the game mechanics are really good. The game mechanics are solid. It’s a fun, little so. The way the game plays out, you build a building each round you build a building that building becomes an action, which you can take utilizing workers. You gain workers after the start of each round, which you use on those bases, which will allow you to make trade actions, take colonize actions attack your opponents to take over there, colonize spaces. The mechanics are good. The theme can feel a little iffy to people. Now they also added in the reprint. The a separate mechanic, which I did not explore fully I was teaching the game to some new players. And so I just wanted to teach the base game. So I haven’t had a chance to explore all of what the age of sail reprint has to offer but this is stuck itself in my game bag and I, I am dedicated to getting a couple more place through playthrough in before the Kickstarter releases, because like I said the game playing this is really, really solid, if you can acknowledged that there are some problematic issues with the timeframe and the time period that that the game works in. I think there there’s a lot of depths of game play there. So. Yeah. Again, probably something that some people won’t enjoy because of the theme term thing. That’s fair. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I thank you for you listeners, for kind of letting us engage in some of that talk. I know that, that can be a little touchy, but honestly, we, you said at the beginning, Josh, and I both purchase from an educational end, so I’m glad that we were able to dig in there and see how they were able to talk about the one topic, but also address the other aspects of not talking about the colonialism but also the fact like, regardless of those things, glorifying it.

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That’s really just there’s a good game here in these things happened in those periods. But I like the fact regardless, that the designers put it in the rule book and actually talked about it, they’re not going to just put it in there and just be like a thing. So I like that intentionally. But listeners that is your kind of warning on that too. That is something that it’s not gonna work with your game. We’re just know that. But also, if you bring it out, and you’re like, let’s see how this goes understand that, that the game might indulge some people to go into a conversation about that, which also like, really healthy for society, and I will say the, the two times that I’ve played this. So I got to play the original two thousand seven version at BG con two years ago. And then this is the first time I’ve actually managed to get this to the table since the reprint over last summer and. Both of those times that, that the, the game is at the table, it does elicit those conversations in, you do kind of, and it’s interesting, I raise like I feel weird about this. The game is fun. But I feel uncomfortable in weird with what is with the theme ING, and I’m just going to call it a good sign of a healthy game group is for you to be able to engage in tension. And so if there’s something going on negative and game group, do you say something like are you friends to the level of being able to engage in conversation because like that’s something we should be able to do? And so I’m going to move us on, but because I think we talked about the topic a lot. But I do like that we had it. So I got one more game for us, and then we’re going to go into some quick news. And then we’re gonna take a quick break and talk about everything Biji but I have one more game that I played at BG. I’m not going to be talking about the games. I played outside of the spiel games at BG. So this game I got to play with a guy named Michael few tiles is his avatar, specifically calling him out for a reason, and that is because if you go to the board game impact website, you’ll notice that my picture has changed, and I am holding this giant captain America shield. The thing is actual metal, and that is Michael’s shield. So Michael thing called extra life in which he flies to different conventions and actually raises money for children’s children’s miracle network and also like children’s hospitals like a really good. ’cause he does that by playing games. Mostly coconut oil, and he hustles people at curl Connell. But Michael is a wonderful human being who have now known for the last two years. And Michael went all in on Batman, Gotham city chronicles by monolith. I was a big kick starter, very Big Sur. And as a Bruce, I am very inclined to the Bruce, Wayne variety and the Batman. I just do not have the funds to back something like that he brought all I think it was in boxes of this game. And there’s about one hundred minutes. There’s that are all pretty much different. And here’s the thing he painted a third of them. Oh, wow. Yeah. So if you’re looking at some of the pictures posing during BG that was Michael’s game. And I gotta give him credit for the amazing job, you did on the miniatures that we played with as well as including the money didn’t play with. And that was the T Rex that occupies, Wayne manor. Yes. Like the T Rex is a thing in the game. But he he’s painted out all the hero. So we got to play with fully painted heroes. We got to play with a fully painted Bain and some of the other villains, and he keeps sending me pictures to tease me about all the other villains. So Gotham city chronicles is a board game though. Let’s get back to the gaming. In which you are essentially games of old, and this is how Michael would describe it. Michael said that what got him into gaming is games. Like hero quest where one player plays an overlord type character and everybody else’s against that character the overlord controls all the minions. So in this case, he was controlling all of the villains, and then we were each controlling our own independent character. So I was playing Batman I was playing Robin playing as Bluebird several other characters we played a couple of times. And so we were going through different scenarios, like the first scenario is we’re in this like blown up kind of subway station and bane was there with the als. So if you’re familiar with Batman Lawrence, what I’m talking about this.

45:03 – 50:02

And there was bombs spread out. So we had to do is we had to disarm four of the five bombs by seventh seventh round, which is very difficult. And how we did that as we had these little cubes, and we had a total, depending on your character between, like nine eleven so I had eleven because Batman new more things and move those cubes different little spots on your player board. And then however many cubes you’re all their how many cubes are there, plus any kind of bonus that spot has is how many of different colored dice you have, and you’d roll those Dyson? However many successes what you have. And then he has this player board his own player board with all the villains on these cool little tiles that he can allocate. His little cubes for to give him extra bonuses. Give him some extra defense, etc. So it’s really fun to kind of go back and forth. Michael memorized, the different scenarios that we were playing, and he would feed us, like we were playing a role playing game of like, okay you’ve done this. Now this happens. What are you going to do? So that was really, really cool as well as Michael had little character sheets for every single character in the game. And I’m talking like a giant stack of these things, and all of the special actions that they can all do. He knew it all the icons were everything, everything. And for those you’ve ever played Conan, which had also by monolith games came out a couple years ago that game works off of the same MEC mechanics. And the reason I talk about how he had all these things prepared because without that Josh we could not have played this game. The rule book for this game, there’s like four rule books. The scenarios themselves have little logos because it went for its own independent iconography. So that way, they could be language independent. Not language dependent. And so there isn’t really a place that explains all of those logos are except in the back of the one rulebook. But that’s also the same rule book that has the layout of that map, and then another part of the rulebook has because you’re on this different terrain. And so we were on this catwalk and it was like we didn’t know until because he explained that it was, too. It’s too story elevation down to the main floor and we’re going to get hurt. If we jumped off the only way to know that is to flip back and forth, some very thankful. We had somebody who knew all the things and then on your player board, which has this little insert that has your character with all their special icons. There was nothing explaining what all of those icons were for each of the players. And because you needed to look in that rulebook that’s already being looked somebody else to look at something on the board. And so the fact that he went through the time to print out and then laminate all of these individual character sheets, which honestly. Should have been something in the base game. It should have come with the character sheets like too many bones. Did does where it has character sheets for all these individual Carter’s because there’s so much to them? So there was a lot of lot of rule. Checking that read luckily didn’t have to do that anyone else has to do. There’s a huge barrier to this game, which is super sad because this thing has the production quality of its phenomenal. Like this game was built for Kickstarter. It has all the looks it has all the possess. But then they didn’t pull it through with the actual core mechanics of the game. And we had to execute everything pretty much perfectly in order to get things to work. So I couldn’t just be Batman beat things up. I had to do the strategic things. Now, here’s the deal, though. Josh, I know I’ve been talking about this for a little bit. And I know it just went into this big ranch. I still had a lot of fun. But I had a lot of fun because I had somebody that reduce those barriers for me and was there to support me. And when I had questions, he wasn’t playing the role of no, you need to figure stuff out. I’m not gonna give you a hint. It was. No, let’s have a fun time together like the same conversation. We just had about endeavor age of sale, where it’s like, no, let’s actually come together and help each other out. Let’s talk through things. Michael came it everything from that lens, and like he is a good friend, and I am so thankful. And honestly, he lives up in Dallas. And I might just take a weekend drive to Dallas to play through a couple more campaigns of this and a couple more of the little scenarios because it was I had that much fun playing this game with him. But I couldn’t I can easily see this game not flying in a bunch of game groups unless you have that investment unless you have those things a lot of people can’t do that this game Kickstarter only, but they are coming out with the season two of. This Kickstarter very soon. And they’ve already announced some different villains, and some different things are throwing in it does have a couple other story. Modes you can do where each that overlord character controlling a suite of characters not just one.

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There’s a lot of layers of this game. A lot of things if you have the ability to have that investment. But again, this has a lot of as a looks freaking gorgeous. But they just didn’t in my opinion, didn’t follow through on things for the average gamer. Yeah, I, I pass this real to be honest. I pass this up on Kickstarter because it was ridiculously priced this game to go all in was a huge chunk of change several hundred and. I like comic books I like superheroes. Batman was never my favorite. I’ll just own that. But, you know everything about this game looks phenomenal. Like you said seeing pictures of it on the table. Looks great. It looks fantastic. You are not the only person I’ve heard that the. It is not intuitive in terms of the. The way in which the board is laid out, right? You’re I cannot graffiti is not ideal. I think would would be the way way to say that. But is like your experience is one that, that I could see really working for a lot of people. It reminds me a lot of an RPG. We talked about playing RPG’s earlier in the in this episode right? I, personally I started. D M ING, I’ve only deemed a few one offs. I’ve never done a full campaign. And even then it was several years after I had been playing the game. And I learned through as Moses how to play the game. It takes a special person to pick up a dungeon masters. Handbook, a Mosser’s manual a player’s handbook, and all of the other material for a dean D campaign and read a good chunk of that. And learn all of the rules and figure all of that out just by reading. But if you’ve been doing it and you’ve been playing it for all. I’ll and this is the type of game that it looks like you could get a lot of play out of this without. Owning a lot of other games, you could you could really dive into this game. So, yeah, I agree. It’s not something that I don’t think I would ever want or need in my collection. But it sounds like if you have someone in your group who is willing to put in on the front end to learn all of those rules and learn all of the. Kind of fiddly intricate ways in which the board interacts with the players and all that sounds like it can elicit a lot of fun. If you have that fun delivered to you in a more digestible manner, and so that’s really what it comes down to. And I think it really well, but I do just want us against thank you Michael for doing all that, because that’s not something, a lot of gamers have have access to you. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I’ll see you again. That’ll be said that’s the games for right now. We do have two quick things of note for business. And then we will be taking a break, so last episode or episode before that, actually, it might have been. We talked about the announced potential tariffs in. It’s still at this point potential tariffs on board games dice all kinds of stuff from China with this trade war, essentially going on, and that the open forum for that is going to be taking place on June sixteenth. I believe, so this is not a thing, that’s a thing yet. But the they have come out with the number, and that is twenty five percent tariff. And so, again, that’s on the cost of the manufactured goods. So if you the cost of manufactured goods is fifty dollars when it hits the states is going to get hit with an extra twelve fifty so that means that most likely prices, you will see an increase, maybe not to that extent, but some sort of increase to goods from. China on the board game realm now listened to a couple other podcasts and talked to a couple of people in the industry, and there’s about eighty plus percent of board games in the US that are made in China. This is like a big deal. Now the problem and the reason I wanted to bring this up for quick news segment for the listeners is because I’ve been getting reports from people from game stores as well as publishers, as well as x y z other types of where you’d get a game where they’re already announcing to their customers about this tariff getting into place. Warning them about the price increases, and in some cases, already increasing the price.

55:08 – 1:00:11

It’s not even fully thing yet. Now in talking to you one publisher. I just asked about this real quick. They said, well, here’s the deal with some of those games, they may be having to pay at the docks for that. They can’t offline the cost, and so they may be increasing their prices, because they might not have the cash flow in order to pay that initial burden. Might becoming from. But listeners, I do just want you to know that this is happening. This is some big implications for some smaller publishers for some kick starters as we talked about. So if you want to go more in depth on all of that, go back, a couple of check that out even check out the Facebook page, where lengthy article for you there, but just want you to be aware as you go into game. So as you might see a higher price than you expected. And this is not something. Oh, well, the game’s gonna still be cheaper on like Amazon or online retailer. No, they’re still having to get it into the United States. And so you’re going to be seeing some of those prices go up to. And so if there’s something that I’m just gonna say this if you’ve been meaning to pull the trigger, you might just want to do it. Just so that way, you’re getting a little bit cheaper if that is a concern for you. But if not, hopefully, this is a short thing. This is not something that’s going to go on for long. I know there has been some huge outcries. I know gamma says the game Manufacturers Association. Has been talking about this and lobbying against it, and they’re going to be sharing some hopefully, some things pretty soon. But just wanting you to know. The next thing joshing kind of let you take take it away with this one because we’ve talked about this game a lot and you’ve talked about it a lot more than I have shore. So the next thing listeners, and I don’t know why. Or how this is slipped my mind to not mention it before now because this has been a while. We talked a lot or at least in three episodes. Now about the game wingspan, I think, for folks who have been around or listeners have heard us talk about it. I’m not going to go into the full rundown. If you’re new to the podcast, please go back. Download and listen to those episodes, Wiezman man is a fantastic game that came out at the start of this year. It has been high high demand that has been hard to keep up with one of the things that has happened with the game is some of the cards were misprinted. There was a mistake in the. As people were going to, and editing and double checking everything something slip, through the cracks, some of them were pretty simple, or kind of funny, spelling errors. So there’s between with threes. Technically for. There are between. At least one of the birds was labeled with the wrong, name, some of the rules were printed. Not clearly I think it was not enough that it would have negatively impacted your game play. But the points were just a little bit off on one or two of the scoring cards based off of the percentage of cards available in the deck. With those, there’s just some little tweaks and errors FX. I believe twenty cards and there’s probably close to two hundred cards in the deck. I don’t have a hundred and seventy four. So the effects are relatively limited, almost none of them. Have any direct effect on game play really except for maybe some rule clarifications. But one of the great things stone Meyer games has done is made this made a card update available to owners of the game for a penny. You can go to the stone Meyer website, you can pay a penny. Which essentially is the way I understand it the. Sales website or the sales platform that the website use utilizes says you have to have a financial interaction for selling something on your website. And so the penny is legitimately. It is, we have to have a financial transaction to make our website work, and you pay for shipping. I think I did it actually through a different website along with some, so I purchased a couple inserts, and it actually completely eliminated the shipping cost of the cards, whenever I bought inserts.

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But Bruce, it looks like you paid four dollars four dollars for for and one penny. And it’s, it’s really nothing is really nothing. Again is, is not gonna affect game play all that much. It’s not necessary to make the game better or anything. But if you do own the game or are looking to purchase the game, just be aware that it might be you might have some funny, misprinted cards or slightly confusing. Wording on one or two of the rules. If you don’t get this. But if you go to the stone Meyer website, you can get access to that those reprinted cards. Well, here’s the thing, too. So if you’re getting a new copy of this. If you’re getting the next printing, it’s going to have all this updated in ready. So just check before ordering and actually my wife has asked me to leave the between cards just because she’s loves the fact of it’s like a bird saying it, and so that’s really what it comes down to. All right listeners, we’ve talked about a lot and so with that we’re going to be taking a quick break, and then we’re gonna come back and come back and talk about the very quick overview of BG, and then go through the spiel nominations. Right. We can’t wait to see you after the break. Okay, listeners welcome back to board game impact here with Josh your fellow co host, and we just we’re talking through all the news and other updates that have been going on in the board gaming industry as well as a bunch of games have been playing recently in those a lot of fun. But now we’re gonna talk about all the fun, and that is because we’re gonna talk about the board game. Geek, spring overall experience real quick. And then going to talk about the spiel this euros. So Josh, I’m going to kind of give a quick rundown of what board game. Geek, was all that stuff real quick. And then give the context of where all this comes in, then I’m going to turn the mic over to you to kind of lead the listeners through this whole kind of exploration of the spiel is right, please, please do take it away. Okay. So board game geek, is a website that if you don’t have an account on board game, just go to board game, geek dot com. It’s centrally the repository for all board games period, came out in two thousand one two thousand two by guy name Scott Alden, and after a couple years, like let’s have a convention in, so that’s where they started with the BG con that takes place in November. And then about five years ago, they started up this more family oriented one, smaller one called bore BG’s spring. And so I say family because the other convention, you have to be older than twelve to go. And this one allows in people under twelve and actually, if we were to have kids like my wife can’t. Wait for that day to happen to like go with kids to this convention, because there’s a lot, they do for families and support families, which is really, really cool. Both conventions have a library of games. That’s exactly the same pretty much except timings of some new games might get added. But that library of games is about six thousand games. That’s not all the games that BG owns and pretty much. All these are owned by all the. There’s also this big storage, because they’re going to get fouls of games in a year. And so they will constantly curate what’s in that library. But there’s games that are really expensive that you can’t find anymore. More out of print or they just came out board game be going to have it. So it’s a wonderful weekend to get to try and play all these different fun games. And like it’s almost like a dare you to try to play as many as you can because they’re so, so many. And so, I know one of our friends posted the she played like twenty one different games in four days, which is incredible. I did not play nearly that many. The couple there really aren’t many avent’s at this convention like other conventions like gen con or things like that. And it’s really not trade show oriented, nor vendor oriented for the spring, one it’s really just about coming together as a hobby, and playing games like it’s awesome. The there are couple events that do want to talk about. So one, there was a poker tournament that I always participate in, it’s just a fun. Little way to connect with people that happened the first night play for a couple of hours.

1:05:04 – 1:10:04

I suck up, but it’s a fun way to come together. Because there’s a rule this if you’re that guy that gal that like you go to Las Vegas all the time or Lennox city like this is not the poker tournament for you. There’s a lot of people here who are just learning how to play. So it’s a really fun time. And those people who are that person end up taking a new role and that’s teaching people how to play poker. So appreciate the kind of the head fake on that. I talked about how the library is huge. There’s also a huge amount of storage and last year. BG’s spring all the decided to call, so remove games from the storage, because they’re running out of space, because they store, the storage, the geek store, as well as the library in a little airplane hangar, and they’re currently looking for more a new space from what I’ve been told but they needed to make room for all the games that are coming in. And so all these aside we’ll, if we’re going to do this. Let’s do it for some for good reason. And so he found out about a nonprofit called cafe momentum in the Dallas area and Dallas like many other metropolises has a pretty high juvie rate of kids going into juvenile delinquency, and then actually having a high recidivism rate and Josh’s of you’re more your speak in which, because John just doesn’t does Davel and conduct universities. Recidivism rate. So the likelihood that simply somebody going back into that system, or committing something again, and it’s really really high for kids who were in juvie. And so this one guy then came up with this idea will really given any options of the Guinea, training or trade skills, etc. Because a lot of places won’t hire them as a kid, and they’re needing economic opportunity. They created a nonprofit co caffeine momentum in which they pretty much only they have internships for people who’ve been in juvenile detention centers to learn trade skills, and they cycle through running all the operations of this cafe and the numbers in Dallas. The Dallas area has significantly been improved because of this nonprofit and the recidivism rate is extremely almost non-existent. It’s almost like zero for anybody who has worked so it’s absolutely incredible work going on. And so all the found out about them. And so all his avatar name on BG. So have you ever see him commenting? He’s got like the. Will Smith robot movie robot as his avatar? That’s all the he’s wonderful human. But anyway, so he’s like, if I’m going to get rid of these games. Let’s have it go for a good cause. And so they sold games for ten dollars a game. So I got some Ryan lock it games. I got some. I got two games in the in the in the charities and the storage sale the next day they put those games up for five dollars and then they also had some very rare games. So I actually got to see a first generation power grid by freedom and freeze that had a different name that had a board that looks nothing like what it looks like today, it had dots on it, and it came with a pack of crayons, because you actually made your little routes in the head. So, yeah, it was phenomenal. You could buy that for like one hundred bucks ’cause like that makes sense. It all went to a good cause and actually raise fifteen thousand dollars that weekend for that, nonprofit. So wonderful, wonderful thing going on Josh. Dr earlier about me, Marie condo ING. So if you have not watched Marie, condos special on Netflix encourage you to do that. So what it is, is essentially, you take all the items of the same items. Let’s it’s boardgames, who would who would do. This. But I did it and you take all the board games in your abode in your house, and you put them in one place, all of them. Yeah, they could be on the shelf. Take them off the shelf, put them in the plug on the, the bed, or for my case, the table, you put them on one place. I don’t buy them and say, does this spark joy. Now, here’s the problem games are made for entertainment. So it’s really hard to say really say no sparked. Yeah, they all sparked joy. And also, it’s like the precious from Lord of the rings. So all these games sparked joy. But my the question I added to that, because that wasn’t enough. I had to ask, but is it adding value in my collection? Am I going to play it again and would someone else potentially get a lot more use out of this than I am? And so it had to meet those questions for me. And so of the games that I have I literally purged more than fifty games for my collection. And I gotta tell you a oh, like this is gross for all these games when they were in one pile. But then I was able to beautifully put the games ahead left into the shelves perfectly no games. I had games on the floor in the past in the closet like all my games perfectly neatly on display in the game room.

1:10:04 – 1:15:03

And I just felt liberated doing Bruce enough shaming my board game collection exploding all over every room of my apartment. You’re this type of thing is not for everybody. And I’m going to absolutely say that. But for me it was good. And for us, it was good. Now how I got rid of the game because that’s purging is step one. I really just put him in another room, that room looked gross for several days, actually a couple of weeks. How I purge them though the board game geek has two different avenues for that. The verses of virtual flea market, so you can go on a couple of months leading up to the convention, and people will post games for sale. This is actually a forum, that’s actually led by some people who are just volunteering their time. And you can post games for sale and you can also go on and purchase games or like bid on game. So some people do it as an auction. Some people offer like, here’s the price. I’m kind of firm on it, and then the other thing and then you have an hour, meet up at the actual convention trade games that places a cacophony then there’s the board game bizarre which used to be called the flea market, but that was confusing. So now it’s called the board game bizarre, which is essentially, you can sign up to have a table. And then you set up your, your all the games you’re bringing for display posted notes on them and what you do is you’re there and people have one hour and people walk through the room and they’ll offer your prices. Typically, what happens is people typically slash their prices at the halfway point. And so I started the bizarre with, like forty three games. And at fifty five minutes, I got rid of every single game. I brought. And then I bought one game in the virtual flea market, and I got to in the charity sale, and then I got one for tending the convention. So I came with forty almost fifty games, I left with four and I’m very excited about the four I have, and I had people come up to me after the flea market and the bizarre. Like, hey, I just wanna say, thanks, because you weren’t trying to like gadgets for prices and stuff. It was just like you really do just want these games to go to good homes and I’m like, yeah, that’s it. And actually, it helped pay for part of my experience of going to the convention, which was also nice. So that’s how I did all that. But the reason besides the family oriented stuff, and I know I’ve been talking for a little bit. But this is where we’re going to really flip. The script the one of the other reasons that made sense for board game geek to make this spring convention is because of this whole spiel this yard. Nomination process, German game of the year awards. So on the twentieth of may those games were announced for the three categories that we talked about before. So that’s the kid’s game of the year the game of the year and then the game of the year each of those three different games nominated for them, and they also have to be published in German and have to be available and they cannot be an expansion and they cannot be just a reprint of an older game. They have to be significantly new game. And so that is everything that goes on with that. But the reason that ties back to the convention is because at the convention, they had two of the actual judges from the spiel this yours committee Athen invention, as well as two other assistants that kind of helped because there was another judge, I guess, you couldn’t come last minute, and so there was people from sensually eight AM to five PM, and they typically came early, and they typically stay late to teach you every one of those games these people love teaching these games and they. I just wanna see this hobby grow, and that is just wonderful. And this is really the only place to have all those games available setup twenty four seven for anyone to try and they’re all set up actually on on game topper. So look super super pretty. So with all that context. Josh, I’m going to turn over the main Mike to you and kind you take it away. Sure. So Bruce, just want to say, I’m again, just how jealous I am that you got to go to g g spring. I find it really interesting that they are doing BG’s spring around the spiel czar nominations because if I’m not mistaken. They’ve traditionally tried to make BG normal convention in November roughly around the time of October November around the time of essence feel so that they can get a lot of those gains brought over as well. If I’m not mistaken, you’re not mistaken. That’s one hundred percent correct. So the convention in the fall is, like one of the conventions ago, f- to in the United States because board gang week has a presence at Essen they will go around and they literally ship over. A palette of games for people to play.

1:15:04 – 1:20:06

At BG con there’s always a little bit of stress with everybody that runs. The convention of our is the pallet gonna get here in time. But what it does it gets there, usually about a week early and a whole bunch of volunteers, actually helped get all those games punched and ready for that convention the next weekend. So it’s a very big on taking but ashes spiel has about ninety five thousand people that go to it, and it’s called s in, because it takes place in Essen spiel means game as Josh pointed out last time. And so that, that has huge, huge convention. It’s the largest convention in the world for gaming. So, yeah. So so I like that. They’re trying to match up the. Conventions with these euro Centric or European Centric game events that drive a lot of interest in, in the states, but may not be able to people may not be able to access the games that are brought up there. Necessarily at other conventions as they are at these conventions. So I think that’s a really nice nice thing that BG con is doing for folks in the states because some of these games you might not be able to see get printed in the states. And if you do it might be a year to two years, these are going to be the hot games like a year out. Yeah. I think Queen was actually a great example of this was one that released. S N. Over Merlin way. Overpaid Merlin for Merlin when it came. But I, I enjoyed it that much. So, yeah. I think it’s I would have had to wait another eight to nine months after I had bought it to get it in the state so really appreciate that they do that onto the spiel nominees though. We talked a little bit of what the field ajar is, I mentioned last episode that spiel jar is the is German for game of the year. So it is the German game of the year. There are three categories is Bruce mentioned, and they must be printed in German language, and available in Germany, at the time that the award is presented and published either the current or previous year. We discussed last week, we recorded our last episode. I believe two days before the. Spiel nominees came out. Yep. And we made a lot of wild predictions six on six of them. Two out of six not bad. Not bad really bad. Really, really not terrible. I will own that I n -ticipant it’d wingspan being nominated for spiel it was not correct. It was nominated for Kenner, spiel the gamer game of the year. But we did accurately predict two of the three Kenner, spiel games. Wingspan being one the next April diction by Bruce which was detective. By agnosio drave, check from Puerto games, and then the final Kenner, spiel nominee, which neither of us mentioned really thought of was carpet, diem by Stephan film, Stephan feld, from league games and stuff and felled the designer of Merlin which we talked about earlier in this episode. Really phenomenal. Euro game designer. I, I have not had chance to play carpet diem or detective obviously, we’ve talked about it enough. Yeah. But Bruce, tell me a little bit about carpet diem, and detectives or were you able to get them to the table? And what were those experiences like, okay? So as I said they had these games setup before anybody even walked into the convention, there’s three tables with each game setup and they were set up twenty four seven which was incredible. And then during those windows from like eight to five German judges, come around, but you could also at your table, you could put up these players wanted sign or teachers wanted sign and someone who had already played it go come by teach it to you. So that was really cool. So quick caveat on detective modern pride more game. So that game is essentially, you are playing the role of a police detective, but you’re doing like, admin paperwork stuff. You’re actually like writing out clues. You’re looking you literally actually set this up. There’s a. There was a computer on every table laptop because the cards and the game, we’ll have a little WI fi symbol to have you actually look stuff up on different websites to try and put together the clues.

1:20:07 – 1:25:05

And so there’s photos of Lon line of people putting like this big mind map like it’s a TV show of like who done it like connecting the dots which is really cool. Now, the, the reason I say, there’s a big caveat with this one is because the base game was not something people were trying at the convention. What people were trying. It was a Manila, envelopes, like a Brown khaki envelope, like a harder card stock envelope called case number six. So they were not actually playing the bass game of detective and why that is, is because if they enjoy this demo case they didn’t want to spoil the base game. If that makes sense. And so what players had to do was like, okay, well, this is kind of how this plays I don’t know how these cases lineup to the cases that are in the base game. But I can make inferences on what the place to play is going to be like, then if it’s something that would interest me. And so that’s why there’s the big caveat there. Now, I will say that, that case that they had there. I saw some players there for several hours and they’re definitely was some approachability struggles by some players because of having a laptop there in the what do I do with this? So in off hours. It wasn’t as many people going over there when the German judges were around, and could teach it, there was definitely people at those tables, wanting to check it out. This game is one ton of a wordy been nominated for awards. What’s actually funny as I watched last week? I watched a agnosio does YouTube channel inside his company, and he’s like, well, here’s the deal. It’s monday. We just preparing our announcements for our public service announcements for all of our award nominations for the dice tower awards, and then I got about fifteen phone calls from my publisher and I decided to finally pick up, and they’re like, you just got nominated for the spiel, and he felt like in shock because he’s like. We have nothing prepared, and it’s like this huge for him because there’s only been one other designer from his country in Europe that I ever been nominated like this huge, huge deal for them. And I think that’s really great. So detective is really cool, but you do need to have a group that’s going to want to do that, like mental mapping and you’re gonna wanna take a lot of notes. And so if that is something that interests you that look at detective? If you have played some of the more like Sherlock Holmes games where you’re reading the newspapers and you’re having to pull out clues from that it has some hallmarks to that you’re looking stuff up on the internet. So having the computer in front of you, and being like type out look stuff up. You typically had one person does designated to do that. If felt really immersive because that’s the stuff we do literally every freaking day, right? Like, I have my laptop, my laptop all over the place. And so I felt like I was actually working this job. So, so Bruce with detective with the six case did. So I think that’s a really cool way to have introduced this at invention which allowed you to learn the rules of the game without quotas, quote unquote, spoiling the, the mystery. Right. Because this is played over five cases then the, that’s what I assume I actually don’t really know. I assume I would assume so a I think the other caveat that I would put on this for our listeners is I really struggle personally with getting. Legacy long-term ongoing games to the table. Right. We’ve talked about charter stone and some other games have been successful doing that. But if you are dedicating a group to five two hour games, then then that is something to put in consideration as well. So just got to clarify something, the cases do not stack. Okay. It’s kind of like a escape room. So if you were to play unlock or exit their all their own independent things in so you are detectives working different cases case is not of the same. Some of the same person sorry, did not make the clear. No. Yeah, that’s because there are some other games out there. Follow a similar vein where it is more serialized, and it may not be you’re investigating the same person. But you’re investigating. The same mystery. Exact so, so I think, yeah, that, that makes a lot of sense I think, but also makes the game a little bit more approachable probably for folks who who can’t necessarily dedicate.

1:25:06 – 1:30:01

With a full group to do the same thing over and over. But it is a group puzzle. So it is fully cooperative. And so just know that. And so that was a very it was a very standout different game from the other games. I was gonna say it that way. Yeah. That makes sense. So carpet diem. I’m going to switch over to that one carpet diem, if you have ever played a Stephan feld game. This one is tile placement. Similar who I Rosenberg. But how you get to place tiles is by moving your little pond. Guess what around Rundell like Maryland? But there’s one caveat here. And that is that essentially, there’s this pathways that connect different sides of the board, kind of looks like a pentagram in the middle of the Rundell. And so instead of walking around, you can walk across and because each space, only has a certain number of tiles that are placed there, once it runs out, you can actually bounce your character off of the empty space to another to its next connecting space. Each thing has like a triangle coming off of it. And then you’re taking the piece that you get from that spot, and you’re putting on your player board. And then there is actually every player has this little sheet, that is like you’re gonna get points for these things, and then for these things, and then points, these things. But a lot of the points, don’t get ended up until the end of around or until the very end of the game. And so, actually. I saw some people play a actually saw Lincoln from board game geek, who does he’s on game night, and a couple of things and some other people play this, like with one of the German judges, but like speed game they played it as fast as they could is actually really fun to watch. ’cause ’cause like echo like euro games you can sit there and method out. Let’s have fun with this. Plus, we’re on a time crunch. And so let’s see what they can do make this puzzle real quick. But is essentially a point salad tile lane game. They are going to be coming out. Apparently, this is what I’ve heard they’re going to be coming out with a new version of it because this ugly as sin. It’s it’s ugly. I would like to say I’m surprised but I don’t know of very many feld games. Right. Our ugliest sentence. Right. And Vera Lynn is one of the few exceptions to the Stephane feld makes ugly games rules. Yeah. The game is really more about, like we’re gonna make. And we’re gonna make this game game with these mechanics, and like pace it on theme that doesn’t really matter. It’s just your tiling. And so, like, yeah. It was. It was fun. But it it’s essentially another feld game. So I’m hearing Rondell. I am hearing tiles. Yes. And point salad and points out. Are there die involved in this game, not that I used interesting? So a little bit from what I’m hearing. It sounds a little bit like a combination between Merlin and burgundy. Yeah, but not as much restriction on where you can play them, except it’s actually kind of, like that’s thank you for bringing it’s kind of like Merlin. With away Rosenberg twist for tile lace mint. But that tile placement is like Carcassonne. Okay, where you have to play tiles that kind of match the tiles around it in order for it to be a legal placement. Otherwise, it’s kind of just a wasted piece because can’t really do anything with it. Yeah. So it’s centrally that’s the combination of what you’re seeing there. It’s a great box and the tie the boards are like this muted, color it, it needs aren’t real bad. Real real bad again. You can’t be surprised. Yeah. You can’t be surprised. I am also if I’m being perfectly honest, I don’t think Stephenville needs. I true. Stephan fell could make a black and white board game. I would play it and personal enjoy it. That’s not going to be everyone’s Cup of tea. But I really enjoyed the the interesting way he utilizes mechanics. And this sounds like another hit. I am really disappointed because this was out at BG. Con in November missed it, it is probably for that. Same reason it looks so boring. I probably did not look at it. But definitely one that I’d be interested in checking out. Sounds like something that the field judges would. Traditionally go for in terms of the intricacies of the mechanics yet. And so that’s the thing too. So yeah this game.

1:30:01 – 1:35:08

It’s a felt game. And so, I should have recognized that from the gecko. But, like, also I kinda just want her hobby to evolve a little bit. And that’s kind of where some of that’s coming from. So from approachability for a new gamer, they’re gonna be like this is ugly. And especially when it was sitting right next to wings banned. Yeah. Those tables were next to each other one, arguably, one of the prettiest games that’s come out in a very long time. Right. However, for the category for the game or game of the year, a lot of gamers can just look past that and be like it’s a really good game. And so there’s that I think the kind of consensus is that. Carpet, diem might take it because it’s the kind of game that typically takes it detective might take it for its innovation and then wingspan might take it for its impact on the overall gaming community. Yeah. I think that’s a great a list, there for them. They kind of touches on on three very unique games when you compared to one another. So I’m actually going to jump down very quickly. No, he spent a lot of time on that. But I do think it’s category for listeners. Yes. On kinder- spiel. So please years, just in case, I don’t have kids, I may or may not one day have kids, but I do think I have games in my collection. I know that I hold onto for the time when my nephews are old enough to game with me. And so that may be the case for some of our listeners out there. And if you are listening with families welcome, so Bruce, talk a little bit about what kid games. Did you are family game? Did you get a chance to experience while you were there? So listener, it’s the other reason, we didn’t really talk about the kids games in the last episode is because I’m just going to call it these games aren’t usually ever in the United States until after this award just call that. And so really the only way to know what’s going to be nominated for this is to be in Germany and be playing those games and then to see was nominated. So there was three different games. And then I’m going to give a quick spoiler after that. So am gonna butcher one of these names. I’m just going to say that right now can’t get that one over with tau this game from Haba hobby makes at that big yellow border. They make for known for making really really great kids games in this game is by Marie and Wilfred fort but it’s tell their wyking, her Tyler working Todd. They’re like Vicky Vicky anger. Yeah. Victor. So this game you’re flicking things. And so what it is, is you have this little paddle. And then there’s these little barrels in the middle of the board that have this recess spot cut out for them. The barrels are each in the colors of the players as red blue yellow green, and you flick a little cannonball at these barrels. Whatever barrels fall over. So essentially, you’re bowling, whichever barrels fall over, you move those color tokens on this other recess track of the top of the board that like a spot, and they will leapfrog things. And there’s once somebody gets off that track. Then you scored the ones that are there. And so it’s like this little action thing of if all those recess spots on top of the board have a corresponding icon with it. I’m just going to call it. This game is super light. It’s really just bowling. And that other thing just kind of pace it on. I don’t think I hope that this game doesn’t win also from family point of view. I’m just gonna say I wouldn’t want to kid bowling. On the game table. Like if we’re going to bowling and get like the little bowling set gonna. We’re going to say that now and I hope it doesn’t get picked for that reason because I think there’s some families out in the world that are like I don’t wanna have to clean these things up. Let’s just have an experience in the space. And I’m going to say my favorite save my favorite game for last. So the next February Antica by Marco trip, put up by Pegasus Bela. This game is actually, like really cool. So you had so Josh, I don’t know if you’ve ever done this for listeners, you ever done this growing up ice to go to the beach all the time. And I used to have one of those buckets, the look like a of a castle, and fill that bucket up with, like wet sand, and then it turned over and like years, my sandcastle those things, but like miniature shock glasses on this board with little pathways and what you, did you had these little like a Princess little standi cardboard, sandy king, little cardboard, sandy, and other stands and you’d cover them up with these little, like, shot glass sand castles, that are all bright, bright, yellow and thick and they’d be moved around randomly on the board for random setup and you have to go and find the different people.

1:35:09 – 1:40:01

So a little three card Monte, actually a little three card. Monty and hidden role. Yeah. Hidden movement. Yeah. Teaching our kids to wink, the local neighbors. Yes, it had like a fun couple different elements coming out there. Apparently, it has some hallmarks of some older games. Sounds like a fun, little experience. So definitely could see that one working and also some really great art. And also, I could see families just really liking the table presence. But that’s a lot of little components to keep up with you last game. Oh my God. I had so much fun with this game. We played at twice we played this on the last night of the convention, and we played our hearts content met up with some random people. We’re playing this in this game. It’s called go gecko go by Juergen Adams from Zok. And so this game. Is awesome. This game is essentially limbo meets a conveyor belt. Like that’s what I can put this. Okay. So everybody is a racing game. Everybody has four little tiles that are well, they’re not little, they’re decreasing incised. You have a big alligator and then you have a turtle, and then you have a oh, what does the creature? I cannot remember it right now. And then you have a little gecko and they’re smaller, and smaller tiles, and their brighter colors. And what happens is you roll two dice. And on those dice of the different colors of the different tiles, and let’s say a roll to blues, then I could roll move my blue won twice. But if we’re all blue and yellow in the yellow ones little gecko I can either move the blue ones or the gecko once. Okay. Okay. So what’s really cool is if you happen to let’s say the blue one which the biggest one early on the board. And then I moved my gecko on top of it. Big ones can carry little ones. Which is cool. But then there are these, these little like limbo things that stick up and across the board. And there’s four them that come with the game you only use to and their different heights. And guess what depending on how many things stacked up it might not fit. But you can’t move your guy or gal or turtle through a one of those things rolling the dice. You actually take a little leaf because you’re walking, you’re going across the pond like a little stream, and it is a recessed board. And you take your tile and you push. All the tiles in your whole stream, and you push them under the limbo thing, and whatever it doesn’t meet the barrier gets pushed off. And so every time that happened we broke out into song and dance, like push it. Real good. It was phenomenal. And so it’s a racing game where you’re pushing the things along the only way to push if something is about to go under this game was a ton of fun. There’s also another die that you also role with the other two, and it’s the weather. And so if there’s lightning bolt something get scared and jump to the next one. So it’s a cool way to move things up fast. There’s also the sun, which eliminates the dark side of the limbo pool. Limbo pole and so anything that’s in the dark area is now eliminated. And so they scurry and they scurry up one and so it’s like you might make other people move up this game like this, you’re talking about games to, like, hold onto for win with kids. This is the game. You’re talking about a game that you also might wanna play just because like it’s a light game, and it’s going to be a lot of fun with adults. This is the game. This is the game. I hope wins a lot of people think phev Alantic is gonna win. Anybody who is also an adult gamer, who is willing to fly kids games. I think once go gecko to win, because it is that cool. Is like a lot of fun and looking. I’m looking at some pictures right now, and just the, the tiles in the pieces look great and the frog is what you were looking for their thank you. So you. Turtle, frog and gecko. Yeah. No, this looks really, really fun and light. I will definitely be keeping an eye out. My, my nephew, five this year. So we’ll see this might end up in his Christmas. Present idea. At the end of at the end of this year. That’s a very good idea. Now here’s the thing, Josh. And here’s the spoiler thing talked about. So I actually talked with one of the judges for a Lyle. And so it was like so how is it demoing all these different games? And he goes, well.

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The kids games are way more complicated than all the games nominated for the game of the year field us yours. They’ve got a lot more going on because the ones for spiel essentially, we’re like party games and we can talk about that here in a second. But there’s a lot more rules to understand and learn for the kids games, which I thought was an interesting moment. And I was centrally. The consensus also everyone at the convention. Well, and I did want to mention this. We did save the spiel four last because it is kind of the big game. It’s a big deal. I I’m just going to call it right now. So I know two of these games. I don’t really know third. No one of them. One of them is a game that I’ve had my own for a while. I will own that. But I’m I am a little disappointed with the nominees for spiel this year. I understand why. They are what they are. I understand that they nominated games because of the way in which. Board games are going right? Outside of gamer games, which I think continue to get more and more complex and deep and interesting board games with n society as a cultural phenomenon outside of the quote unquote board game geek, culture. Our party games, more and more every year. And I think that this year is a recognition this year’s nominees are a recognition of the impact that party games are having on the broader cultural impact of board game. The board game hobby I one hundred percents agree. I think that’s very well said and they’re actually is some people have come out over the years and say, well, the spiel games are getting lighter and lighter, but that’s because they’re getting more and more approachable. So you’re absolutely right with that. And so here’s the thing. If someone’s going to board game geek convention, there a gamer like they’ve been a little bit around the blocks. Right. That being said. That being said, this might not have been the convention for these games with what I’m about to say. And what I’m about to say is actually something I predicted as soon as I saw these games nominated, and that is, and I was worried about it. And then it came to fruition. And that was there was a good portion of the days where these tables, set empty. Because people were paying playing heavier games. They’re playing more of the Kenner, spill games. They’re playing games in the library. These games though at night would start to see some presence because they’re gamer games the lighter games. And so the party game atmosphere and so real quick, the games are Lama which is the game. No one knew about no one at all. But this game by Reiner Cornelia who also made modern art, one of my top ten games of all time who it’s actually, Dr Reiner can ET ah. He has his PHD in mathematics and has made more than six hundred games. But then we had just one by Ludwik Rudy and Bruno Souter by repo productions and then where words by Ted all spach of busy games. So Lama real quick, just going to run through these Lama is the game. No, no one knew like what the heck is llama and its capital. L. A M A. And it’s got this goofy looking Lama looking at you. On the box. It’s a little card game. It’s no. With a Ryan can Reiner can a twist essentially what it is a hand of cards, believes eight cards and on your turn you, there’s one card in the middle and who’s ever turn it is. Let’s say it’s a two, they can either play a two or play three or if they don’t have either of those things draw a card if it gets up to six then you can play either six or your Lama card, which resets the pile down. So you can start playing ones or keep playing Llamas. But once someone plays a one, you can’t play Allama so he can never go down. You have to keep going up until it, resets with Allama guard. Here’s where the game gets interesting, though. So let’s say you’re getting lower on cards, and someone has a hand like probably not going to get to play this card. They can take an action though.

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It’s called. What happens is they put the card face down front of them. That is signaling that they’re, they’re stopping. So everyone else keeps going, but they can no longer draw cards. They must play from the cards in their hand. Now, what’s interesting about it is whatever card you have left in your hand what you wanna do is you want to get rid of all of your cards, all of them, because any cards, you have in your hand are negative victory points. So if you have a one in your hand, you get one, minus one, if you have a six, in your hand, you get six negative points if you have two sixes you still only get six negative points because it only has one version of that card. If you get stuck with a llama minus ten victory points. The game ends when somebody hits negative forty points are no positive points in this game. The point of this game is to have the least negative, whoever as least negative wins. You played this at three player. I played this five player played this at six player, you wanna play this at the higher player counts, not the lower player counts, because it’s easier to kinda count cards or kind of predict but yeah you just play and we play in about ten minutes. That’s the entirety of the game. So, so I will say of the of the games that are nominated. I think this is the game game. Yeah, you’re right. That’s why I wanted to explain it. I yeah. Which is interesting because this. Barely. I think fits the description. I think. No. With a twist is a great way to describe because this is a game I could probably teach to my five year old nephew and have him pick up and understand the point of the game with the twist and golf scoring. So I yeah, I think that’s an interesting choice here. I will be interested to see where the judges go because I, I do think that is the game east of the games. Just. Yeah. So if you want me to go ahead. Yep. Do you was gonna say the don’t we jump to the next one on the list, and I’m going to go through these next to real fast? So just one is a game. It’s a cooperative style game but it’s really just an activity just going to call it. This is really not cooperative trying to help the person so that overlord style where one person and then everybody else’s different role. One person puts a card on this little essentially name plate in front of them. It’s got five numbers on it. Each of those numbers as word next to it just one word. Not like two words, just one. So that’s where the name comes in. And then what happens is they’ll pick like three. And so we were playing with a four year old who picked Princess. Her picked four and it was Princess. We did curate like why don’t you pick number one or number four because she was a four year old she picked four, so Princess? And so what happened is we all took our expo marker because it comes with the set x and we wrote on our name plates. One word which you can also do number if you want to. And then what happens is, we showed them to the other players who also wrote their words say finished if two people wrote the same word those words, don’t get shown to the person and all the other ones. Get shown to the overlord type player and they have to try and put together what the original word is. And so, for Princess, you might put in like Elsa, or Ana because there’s because she was talking about frozen type things. He might talk about Disney, you might talk about those kind of things we’re not sponsored by Disney. I had the word manure. And so people wrote like cow farm barn gun, nothing. Because the words that were helpful like fertilizer all to people wrote that and they both got turned down. And so I didn’t get those clues. And so the goal of the game is to as a collective, you have a pile of thirteen cards. And there’s a lot more than that in the game. You just deal yourself as a team, thirteen cards is to get, as many of those cards, actually guessed correctly as possible, and it’s got a little scoring thing. The last game is where words where words is a play on the game where wolf, which is also busy games. I believe the same designer it is the same designer however, where wolf can sometimes if it’s like legacy or things like that might pull in someone different, like robbed avenue. Where words is where wolf? So if you’ve ever played haven’t played where wolf essentially what it is. If you’ve ever played the card game off. Yeah. Same thing. Or different versions on the same game. What it is. You’re all in town and one person or a group of people, depending on how many players you have has a secret role of being aware wolf. They’re not like the rest, and it’s you have a narrator, who walks everyone through.

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Okay. Towns, people go to sleep. Where wolves wake up point at the person, you want to kill tonight. Because the narrative play get close your eyes everyone open your eyes. The narrator will describe how this person died now. There are other roles like a medic who can come in, like save somebody they’ll get they’ll be Aspen. There is point to somebody if they pick the right person because that person didn’t pass away in their sleep. Where words adds a twist in in which there’s a magical spell that the where wolves. No, it’s a word or saying. And what’s trying to happen is the townspeople. They can win one or two ways. They can either get the word which defeats the spell. And so the wearables, are going to try and distract them from that, or they can wipe out all of the where wolves. So it adds a little bit more player. Interaction and a purpose for like the day phases. So it’s essentially, where will with some nice modern twists. But this is a game if you were going to be playing it, it’s really for like a group of teenagers and it’s maybe good for some people who as Josh and I talked about before we started recording. Like, maybe I have a couple of beverages in you. Yeah. I mean it is a I. All three of these games, maybe less so with Lama, but definitely with where words and almost certainly with just one and just want to be to be transparent to the listener just one is the game of these three that I said, I would be interested in playing the game that I would be interested in owning and but where words and just want. Are they are party games? They are games to bust out with a group of people. At the end of a night after people have had a couple of beverages or our little slap, happy, or just kind of hanging out, not really doing a whole lot and a way to just kind of have fun with friends. I don’t think that they are intense games. They are more of just an activity to facilitate fun. Right. And so here’s the deal. I agree with Josh and I actually think just one could and should win this just gonna call that. Based on everything. Oh, saying it was the one table that got the most play except for the first day where everyone everyone’s like what the heck is on. Adding the educational lens in. I actually would use just one for a team building exercise for people because you’re trying to work together while playing just one. I was like, what the heck is it came around to me, a couple times, it was fascinating is, I don’t think are going to be able to do this. I don’t think there’s no way I’m gonna be able to put these together. You have this, like literally light bulb clear moment, of, like, feel like a savant of like I know the word. And so that was a cool feeling that brought out and players, where words there is now a free app that you can download to of, walk you through the narrator role. But just one is the game that should take it. I and actually that is, I’m glad you brought that up because I was actually one of the main reasons why if I am still supervising students in the fall, I will most likely be purchasing what want what just one for that purpose to serve as a kind of team builder? Hang out. Have some fun gets, no know the people around you again, facilitate fund and facilitate interactions among people, I think is, is always a nice way to kind of do that. So that’s everything I experienced those games that was kind of just trying to be cut to the point with a lot of that. But here’s the deal. It is a huge deal talked about agnosio passion, and like his that shock moment when he found out he was nominated. It’s a huge deal to be nominated. It’s an even bigger deal to get this award. They’re going to if you win you’re going to publish somewhere between rumors are between like a hundred and three hundred thousand copies, and that’s just in Germany alone. And so, like you, you’re sensually are set for life to like go and try and make other really cool games, so wish the best to all of these publishers, and congrats and all this excess for these designers. It’s a really cool award. And we can’t wait to share who wins. But just like we went way overtime on this one in listeners. Thanks for leaning, in on this one is just an important episode to kind of go through. But do you have any kind of closing remarks as we wrap up the show? I again, I’ll end with my general statements of thank you. Again listeners spending some time with us. I know there are a million podcasts out there. They’re million ways to spend your free time. So it does mean a lot to us, especially those of you who stuck with us through the end of a very long drawn out episode.

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